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Thursday, August 18, 2005

Independence day

On Aug 15th, I was wathcing a TV program. Some one was singing a so called Patriotic song.. One of the lines says:

"Bharatiye ninna janma dinadandu ninage namisuvevu ..." something of that sort... Meaning we bow to you on your "birth day"

I was actually astonished to listent to this line... How can Aug 15ht be celebrated as Bharat's Birth day ?? Its disgrace for all of us. We have not understood the meaning of our independence day but everyone takes the day off and enjoy their life... I felt really bad..

How can anybody determine Birthday of Bharat ? Its there since the time of Rishis and Munis .. we have got the proof also.. Alas our so called poets dont know this simple matter.

5 Comments:

  • At 9/10/2005 03:12:00 am, Blogger Unknown said…

    haudu.. it is not Bharath's birthday.. probably, it can be termed as Bharath's second birth (like a dvija)

    I was a great admirer of RSS once, wanted to join the organization and all that.. but my views changed.. not on the religious aspect of it. I agree to it mostly.

    But what I am confused is towards the economic policy aspect of RSS. What is the RSS economic policy? is it rightist centrist or leftist or issue oriented or more importanty is it any different from that of BJP? Does RSS agree to private owenership and disinvestment in public sectors? Is this issue debated within the RSS circles and is their a disagreement among the members of RSS as far as its economic stance is concerned?

    At the moment, I am not biased about RSS (mostly because I don't know its stances) and so I would like some one here to throw some light on this issue.

     
  • At 9/13/2005 02:57:00 pm, Blogger Narendra Kumar said…

    Why should RSS have its own economic policy.
    It is not going for power and will never make such policy dicisions.
    The political parties which are waiting to rule us should utter their economic policies.

    And you can compare BJP and Congress, since both of them are political parties. You can have a benchmark also for that.
    But, RSS cannot be compared with Political parties, since it is not into politics.
    For RSS all the political parties are same. We don't have anything against any of the political parties as long as they look after the good of the country and that of Hindus.

    And RSS supports Hindu economics. I don't know if you have heard this word. Whatever Chanakya has written in Arthashastra is Hindu economics. So, you can use that as a benchmark to judge whether we support Disinvestment, or Privatisation or leftists etc.

    Hope this anwers this question.

    RSS is doing only one thing thru out its history and will be doing the same in the future also. That is, creating workers for the upliftment of Bharath. RSS doesn't do anything else other than this.
    If anything has to be done, it is the workers who have to do it.

    RSS is like a power generator. It only generates power. How this will be used will not be decided by the generator. It is the distributor or the end user who decides about its application.

    I don't know if I have made it clear.

    -Narendra

     
  • At 9/13/2005 10:27:00 pm, Blogger Unknown said…

    OK. So you opine that RSS does not have an economic policy. Kautilya's Arthashastra is more about governance than about economic policy per se. So, that strengthens your view that RSS doesn't have a particular mindset on the issue.

    But, why it should have an economic policy? It's no trivial matter. Economic policies play out very strongly in our daily lives. Their impacts can mean survival or vanishing of social organizations like yours. Offcourse this is just me.

     
  • At 9/26/2005 09:42:00 pm, Blogger Balu said…

    Namaste...

    To get caught up with left, right, center, is meaningless. RSS economic view is basically that expounded by Swadeshi Jagran Manch and the late Dattopant THengdi ji and Deen Dayal Upadhyay. Man (or woman) is not merely an economic being but has religious, social, political all in him/her. So, we want economic freedom and not state control. On the other hand, the economic freedom ought to be combined with social responsibility, reduction of income inequality, etc. This includes environmental protection, concept of daana (as opposed to rich pple feeling entitled to keep every penny to themselves). I can go on but ur typical left-wing communist will see this as being "right-wing" because swadeshi/hindu view is not clamoring for state control of all resources. On the other hand, George Bush-style right-wing republicans will see this as some crazy left-wing stuff because they don't care much for social responsibility, reduction of income inequality, protecting environment, etc. So, swadeshi/RSS view is neither left nor right. It is its own view. On a different note, right and left itself can vary. For example, Sangh and others want cow slaughter to be banned and that is deemed as "right-wing." In the US, such a view would be deemed highly "left-wing" coz being vegetarian, not killing animals is often associated with being a bit on the rebellious, hippy side whereas traditional christian america tends to love its beef!

     
  • At 9/30/2005 12:18:00 am, Blogger Unknown said…

    Balu, thanks for your explanations. I hoped for such an answer. I like it because for 2-3 generations now, we seem to be caughtup in 'isms and 'ists. I think its right time to have a simple view of everything, ie. Our View, that has always been for centuries. If Swadeshi is RSS's view, how have the swayam sevaks adopted it? Is there guidance from RSS about how to go about it?

     

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